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sawfiler |
09/22/2009 @ 9:51 AM
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Haven't seen anything about this here yet so I am posting a link to the TV news story.
About 30 bikes traveling together on I-5 involved in 1 big accident. All Harleys
This Happened Fri afternoon just south of Portland WA on I-5.
Son and I were headed south to Portland Fri evening on I-5, but heard about it when we checked into our Hotel. Had business in Portland or might have gone to Shasta. OH well.
http://www.katu.com/news/59789107.html
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smithr |
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09/22/2009 @ 1:10 PM
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That is sad but seems to me if the first two lead riders missed the SUV then the rest of the riders were in to close a formation to not have time to stop. Remember this when your riding in groups.
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Brett0769 |
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09/22/2009 @ 2:48 PM
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I wonder if the lead riders swerved then stopped, leaving the following riders w/nowhere to go.
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habelsgtb |
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09/22/2009 @ 3:29 PM
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Interesting, it says
"Oregon State Police said the motorcyclists were riding in standard formation – two columns – when traffic ahead slowed suddenly".
Standard formation? Would this be side by side or the recommended staggering with 2 second separation? My guess is they were side by side with no safety margin.
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Ranger Jim |
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09/22/2009 @ 3:32 PM
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A staggered formation still constitutes 2 columns.
IF they were riding the "standard", staggered formation a rider has about 2 seconds distance between the bike that is directly in front of them and 1 second's distance from the bike to their side. When you're travelling at 60 MPH you are covering 66 feet/sec. that doesn't provide a lot of reaction time or escape room even under ideal circumstances.
If one or two riders missed seeing the brake lights or some other cue then... .
No one is a TOTAL failure; they can always be used as a bad example.
This message was edited by Ranger Jim on 09/22/2009 @ 4:35 PM
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smock |
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09/22/2009 @ 4:57 PM
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I live in Canby about 5 miles from the accident spot. My wife and I got on I-5 going north at the next exit up from the accident about 5 minutes after it happened. We listened to news reports that had people calling in that witnessed the accident and one person said the SUV had moved into the lane with the bikes. Another witness said the SUV suddenly slowed or stopped. I wonder if there was some bad judgement by the SUV to move into the lane without really having enough room. Investigation is still ongoing. Probably never know what actually happened.
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Brett0769 |
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09/25/2009 @ 4:31 PM
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I would expect the State Police to refer to staggered formation. They should be well educated on safe riding.
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Railroad |
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09/25/2009 @ 5:00 PM
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I never have felt safe with the staggered formation. Your 2 second interval goes away real fast if the guy in front of you swerves in front of you.
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Paulie |
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09/30/2009 @ 9:20 AM
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+1, seeing the gay pirate brigades all bunched up gives me the willies. 
A motorman trainer pal wanted to ride alongside me, but I signaled him NFW. He may have the skillz to deal with it but I soitenly don't.
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habelsgtb |
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09/30/2009 @ 10:43 AM
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I like a 2 second separation from the bike next in sequence vs the one that is really 2 bikes from you. More room.
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